Unsa kahay sakit atong akong mga itoy?

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  1. sral

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    Mangutana lang ko sa mga experienced breeders dre.

    Kaniadtong April 8, after 24 hours nga naglabor akong belgian, gidala namo sa gsc petcare para ipa-checkup. 4 na iyang gi anak, 1 lang ang nabuhi. Tungod kay nagluya na, nag-suggest ang doctor nga ipa-ceasarian na lang tungod daghan pa ang mga itoy sa tiyan as per x-ray. After successful operation, walo pa ang nakuha. Healthy naman daw ang pups. Nagisi kuno ang matres sa inahan mao nga dili na sya kaayo kautong.

    Tungod kay luya ang inahan ug wala kaayo gatas, among gipatutoy ug nestogen 1 ang mga itoy pero nag anam-anam silag kaluya paghuman sa usa ka adlaw ug namatyan dayon ug 2. Mao nga nangita kog goat milk c/o caretaker dire sa gensan sale pero usa lang ang naabtan ug 2 weeks hangtod nahurot na silag kamatay. Muabot man gud ang punto nga di na sila ganahan ug totoy hantod maluya na pag ayo hantod nga mamatay. Pwerteng sayanga gyud.

    Duna kahay sakit daan ang mga itoy bag o naanak kay niadsyon man pud ug luya ang inahan?

    Duna kahay wa namo mabuhat sama sa pre-natal sessions mao nga dili himsog ilang panglawas (ako mang gipatumar ug vitamins ang inahan sa mabdos pa)?

    First time man gud namo ni, unta naay makatambag sa mga dapat namong gibuhat.

    Salamat daan.
     
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    pre ung aso m sa gi walking mo kahit malapit na manganak and dako na kau iya tyan?....tapos giinjection mo ba nung naglabor xa o gpacesarian mo kagad?....kasi vet lang na ang nagkapera sau....and every 2hrs m ba gpadede?....
     
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    gi injectionan unta u bcomplex ang inahan para di kaayo mastress sa paglabor ug after makaanak ug 1 o 2 gi injectionan ug oxytocin para ma induce ug mugawas iyahang gatas tapos gi alalayan ug bcg para dili magkamastitis o mag gahi iyahang gatas. ang mga anak gi injectionan pud unta ug bcomplex para antistress ug gipadidi dayon sa inahan para makatabang pud ug induce. posible nagkalactose intolerance o di nakaangay ang mga pups sa gatas nga imo gihatag. gibutangan unta ug heater ang ila tulugan ug every 1.5 hr padede. bantayan pud ug nagbasa ilahan lubot, i dexrolyte para di madehydrate.
     
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    SAYANGA UY. VET MO LNG DAPAT MAY ALAM KNG ANO TALGA NANGYARI. ALAM NYA RIN DAPAT CAUSE NUN PARA MAIWASAN MO NA NEXT TIME.
     
  5. sral

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    @master: wala na nako ginawalking, nakakulong naman siya, ginapawagas lang nako every morning & evening para makadumi, na-injectionan nako syag oxytocin, pero wala gihapon, nagluya naman gud mao nga gidala nalang namo sa vet. tnx sa reply sir.
     
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    murag kani ang wala nako nabuhat, oxytocin ra ang ako na-inject. paminaw nako na-dehydrate gyud ang mga itoy, pagkasayang na lang. salamat kaayo sa reply...
     
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    lagi, na-shock naman sya pagkabalo niya nga nangamatay ug hurot..

    very expensive experience, siguro next tym, through the help of experienced breeders & dog lovers here, makat on nako...

    tnx kaau sa replies...
     
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    pa ot sir....

    naa pud ko sad experience diha sa gensan petcare sir, nag bleeding ang ngipon sa ako jap spitz ug wla ga undang, gidala namo diha, gi blood tranfusion nila abot ug duha ka bag, pag ka ugma ingon sila bisitahon daw ang itoy kay naka recover na, pag abot namo patay na diay, bugnaw na ang itoy, patay na amo pet, naka bayad pa mi 7k. hahai..... charge to experience.....
     
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    bai pasenxa karon lang jud ko nakaopen balik... nabusy jud ko these past weeks! sad to know of this loss...
    shock ko sa news na ni! i may not be an expert pero gikaluy-an ko na successfull akong breedings so ill share
    some pointers that i hope can help you in the future and for others who may be interested.

    OBSERVATIONS:

    - daghan kaayo ang pups for a 1st timer bitch!

    during pagpanganak, be very very observant sa imong bitch. kung sunod-sunod ang pup then suddenly magstop then you observed galisud imong dog,
    something is wrong! kiding aside, pwede nimo alalayan ug "hilot" bai... this way, mafeel pud nimo kung daghan pa ba pups inside.

    - 24hours labor is to long!
    for me 8 hours max is safe for for both bitch and pups, later than this magkproblema na ang pups eventhough makagawas normally, stress na kaayo.
    i have experienced 12 hours & fortunately ok man ang pup, naglangoy2x ra cguro to sa sulod! be very observant kung nabuak ang water bag sa pup
    kay delicado na sa inahan kay magdry labor naman na ug ang pup magsugod na expand inside so dapat madali jud kay hasta remaining pups maglisud na!

    -lack of proper guidance and info from your VET!
    napansin lang nako na murag wala kaayo ka idea on what to do... the fact na gikan ka sa vet, dapat ila unta ka iguide to ensure survival sa mga pups:

    - feed the pups every 2 hours or kung magsigi na sila ug suck. don’t wait until madiscover nimo na wala or kulang ang gatas sa bitch before you decide...
    prepare milk replacers asap (ayaw ng para sa bata ug kanang sa baboy kay dili mayo) then use it as supplement. Alternate breastfeeding with milk replacers
    every 2 hours para makapahuway pod intawon imong bitch

    - make sure you rub every pup’s genitals after every feeding to initiate pee and poop before returning the pups to the box

    - use of overhead lighting to provide heat to the pups during the night or pour hot water into a rubber bag then wrap the bag with towel and place it under
    the beddings... i prefer the overhead light kay mas dili hasul

    - during the day, specially karon na init, make sure na well ventilated ang pups... use electric fan when necessary but make sure na dili directly hit ang mga
    pups sa hangin kay makadaut sad.

    - make sure mapadali ang pagheal sa pusod and that the pups are dry all the time.


    PREGNANCY SUGGESTIONS: I don’t give vitamins to my bitches during pregnancy but in my own little way, the program i designed for them helps my breeding:

    - Deworm both the stud and the bitch prior to mating
    - right after mating, gradually incorporate goats milk to the diet of the bitch upto at least 1 mo. after whelping
    - refrain your dog from excessive jumping (transfer to a smaller kennel box if possible) and running until whelping time
    - 1 week after mating, gradually mix puppy food to the adult food of the bitch... this is a 1 week transition time from adult to puppy food
    - On the 3rd & 4th week after mating, feed the bitch with 100% puppy food
    - On the 5th week after mating, increase the quantity of puppy food to +50% until the end of the 6th week
    - On the 7th week, add another 50% of puppy food to her diet, in other words double the quantity of her diet 2 weeks before whelping
    - 2 weeks before the scheduled delivery, walk your bitch twice a day
     
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    sayanga no daghan unta kaayo.. kay vans pud manganak nato iyang belgian hope dili ma ing ani.. dili kaha to kulang sa adlaw stral?
     
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    Thank you so much for this information sir, sana sa sunod successful na ako. Thanks din sa concern...

    Best Regards.
     
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    lagi bai sayang gyud kaayo. murag sipyat gyud nako to, wa koy kamangkaagan sa unsay buhaton...
     
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    goodluck sa next time pero ayaw dayon pasundi bai.
    murag tao gud ug iceasarian, at least 2 yrs pa paabuton
    para magbuntis ulit to ensure full recovery sa babae...
     
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    possible ba na mag buntis ulit ang na ceasarian na dog?? i mean like sa tao 3x lang pwde e ceasarian..
     
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    tnx caretaker...

    pwede man six, pero lat angan lang, kanang 2 years sakto na gyud kaayo na...
     
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    ahh.. abe ko same sa tao na 3x rajud
     
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    safer baya sa pups kung ceasarian...
    looy lang ang bitch kung magsige!
     
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    sa iro murag 2 times ra jud na cla i-ceasarian, sa ikaduha na ceasarian dapat ipa tubal ligate na dayon pra maiwasan na mabuntis utro
     
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